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Sovcit says there's no such thing as money.

Sovcit says there's no such thing as money.

Slamdunkdink

The typical SC is unemployed and broke, so I can see how they might come to the conclusion that there is no money in circulation.


StudMuffinNick

Lmao that's so fucked


Vaeon

*We cannot pay for anything. We can only discharge debts.* These are truly the stupidest motherfuckers on planet earth. I actually met one in the wild who told me, with a heart filled with sincerity, that he wasn't a *person* he was a *man*.


SupSumBeers

Man child. Ftfy.


aphilsphan

He’s not even right about bonds. If someone wants to sell you a car, and is willing to take some bearer bonds you have as payment, well there you go. All money does is make it easy to compare the value of a tractor to the value of a banana.


OneHellOfACarrot

Also useful for understanding how many bananas it takes to pay for a tractor


fizyplankton

It's one banana Michael. What could it cost, 10 tractors?


Fomulouscrunch

okay but on what land


Diz7

They watch the courtrooms on Law and Order, and see the lawyers there say special magic words that they sovcits don't understand and it gets people declared guilty or not guilty. So they read words they don't understand in a law dictionary they don't understand and think that if they say they right words in the right order, magic will happen. But only if you use the right very special magic words.


Deutschlan_d

A living man?


jjuniiper

My ex said this shit to me all the time “I’m a living man!!!!” Key word is ex lol


cbusalex

> The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed > The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated > No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury > Nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law Wow, like half the bill of rights just doesn't apply to this guy. Tough break. I guess he can still- > The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people Oh, wow. It turns out that *all rights* are held by the government, the states, or the people. No rights for "men" *at all*.


Gherin29

"That's not a vegetable, that's a potato" 🤔


dougb

I hereby disavow all wages, inheritances, social security benefits and tax refunds for foreseeable future. Signed Sovcit


the_last_registrant

Ask him if he discarded his worthless stim check


Abyss_of_Dreams

Except that wasn't money. That was currency, which is in circulation.


BabserellaWT

...paying money is — is the same as discharging debts. These people...


Icy_Environment3663

In truth, I think most sovcits have discharge issues but they need to consult an MD for that issue, not write about it on the internet. Money is any object that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context. So money is whatever we as a society say is money. Bits of paper, small bits of different metals, big stone wheels, strings of shell beads on rawhide, it doesn't matter. They have no intrinsic value. Gold is valuable because we have decided it is valuable. Same with silver, diamonds, or other "precious" metals or items. We could go back to a system of barter I suppose but how many chickens would it take to buy a house or have a nip n tuck?


BimmerMan87

I was going to comment something similar. I slightly agree that money is merely a concept we have created so in the grand scheme of the universe it doesn't really exist, but that's such a convoluted way of thinking it gets a bit confusing. As for how many chickens to buy a house. In 1972 my grandfather traded another man an acre of land with a 4 room shack, a shotgun, a beef cow, 2 pigs, 6 chickens and $50 for 20 acres of land where he built a new house, which was in turn built by offering other people to tear down old buildings on their property and reclaiming the lumber.


KoboldCleric

Reminds me of some early American colonial societies-it was quite common for someone to pay for a service with another service. Specific details escape me, but it was in the book *In Small Things Forgotten: An Archaeology of Early American Life* for anyone who might be interested in the topic. Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/Small-Things-Forgotten-Archaeology-American/dp/0385483996


notscenerob

> I slightly agree that money is merely a concept we have created so in the grand scheme of the universe it doesn't really exist Money absolutely exists in the grand scheme of things. It's just that it's value is not intrinsic, it's only value is what can be purchased with it. /u/Icy_Environment3663 is confusing things like gold with money (gold has been used a currency), gold has intrinsic value.


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notscenerob

Gold has intrinsic value because it is useful as a metal. We use gold as a resource, not as a currency. Intrinsic value is not market value.


sdmichael

20 Dollars? But I wanted a peanut!


bkn95

>Save aren't precious metals inherently finite? I think that is a key concept here. I'm registered and insured to drive i promise, but i don't think i should have to be. So money is whatever we as a society say is money but only a small amount of that society decided that the USD would not be backed by precious metals any longer. The fact that, sans government, you can't barter with USD shows that it is inherently valueless. Similar to how you can audit many college courses for free, even take all the same classes and exams, but to receive the diploma you need to pay the monies (in usa). And we agree on that, the USD only has value because someone said it does do you have any recommendations on how to prevent tinfoil from frizzing my hair?


GimmeThatRyeUOldBag

If you buy something from a shop, you're not discharging a debt. In fact, it's almost like you're paying for something. You discharging a debt if you eat at a restaurant and pay after eating, however.


Terrince-Friend

Refreshingly pithy. Good show. Aaaaa.


thepanichand

The marathon continues.


Terrince-Friend

Aaaaaamen to that


Farrell-Mars

If only they could get more people to agree


Nhb0dy

Wait a second, do you all not pay your bills with sex? Never listen to your parents...


bunnyjenkins

I would love to see how they buy fuel, if they refuse to pay tax. Probably something like: *No, not that tax. I only stand against things that prove my point.*


sdmichael

Once they grab the fuel pump it becomes joinder and the pump then has a contract with them to dispense.


Sufficient-Ad-1339

for people like that, the gas station should make him pay in advance and the pump only dispense as much gas as paid for


kantowrestler

Good luck saying that to your creditors.


Obvious_Inspector_65

No wonder I have no money in my bank account! I knew it!


checkT

He's referring to the fact that money is created through debt. Which is true. He's just saying it in a sovcit way.


Saeckel_

He's not comoletely false, dont know about the us, but every penny comes from a loan in some form in the eu