THC levels are a terrible indicator of potency, THC shopping is daft
By - DonSalaam
I have smoked weed for a long time and since legalization this has to be the dumbest shit I have ever seen debated. People cannot judge the high when they smoke the weed right? Seriously we all know that THC is not everything but to say high THC does not matter at all is insane. Mark my words in 2-3 years there will be a ton of flower 30-38% THC and some will also have 5%+ terpenes. People will still complain because that is what people do when they're bored.
Smoke weed and judge the high yourself.. Its really not that hard after a long time of smoking weed.
it seems like a slight superiority complex to me, everyones running to point out that THEY know how to properly judge cannabis. there are always going to be people who buy the cheapest 'most potent' option regardless of the product, but you arent going to change those peoples minds.
well when every LP provides the harvest date, THC, CBN, CBG, and terpene levels there isn't much to go off of unless you have previously tried the strain
also i press everything into rosin so the THC content is extremely relevant to my purchases.
This, THC levels absolutely matter.
If that wasn't the case the concentrates market wouldn't exist.
You sure it’s not just because you can take 4 hoots rather than 12 to dose the same thc?
Furthermore, Concentrates also have concentrated terpenes.
I know right! I grow my own, test non of it for THC levels, vape it all myself, and I can totally tell the difference between lower THC strains and higher THC strains.
I've been using for 21 years now and I suspect the people saying THC doesn't matter are newer users and don't really understand long term tolerance and heavy daily users.
Yeh i try to research the strain itself as im still new to this terpene stuff but its always nice to see a higher number when trying to convince the wife of my picks haha
18-24% with a decent terp profile is all you need. Ogen early glue being a great example. Keep that haven street 29% trash away from me.
Retrograde is actually killer weed
Agreed, 20% max for me.
Dunno mate.... this is a cannabis sub and we are all well versed in cannabis. A large portion of the buying public are not that cannabis literate and just think highest THC = best. That’s not really on health Canada. Just my opinion
This is the Shred subreddit right....................
Shred is both pre-milled AND a blend.......................the worst type of product you could spend money on, and it's on here all the time with people saying it's good.............................. true connoisseurs lmao
It tastes good, it slaps, it's cheap as heck, and I don't have to grind it. What's your issue with it again?
It's a pre-milled blend which is the lowest of the low when it comes to quality.....................
Oh so you haven't smoked it, you're just guessing ?
There's nothing to guess.....................this is a standard across other industries......................look at alcohol. It doesn't matter what it tastes like, it's a pre-milled blend, lowest of the low of quality...................
Might be the best pre-milled blend but "pre-milled blend" = low quality.
I guess you've never had blended scotch, and only touch single malts eh
I feel u there bro
Doesn't help that's what was mandated on package by the government!
I would like to see a nutrition panel like on food but with terpenes,cbg,cbn,thc,cbd,cbg etc etc percentages on it I want a full informed decision.
Cause thc percentages I had 29% bud that was trash compared to broken coast quadra at 18.6%.
Minor cannabinoids play a bigger role in the effects then most people know.
Distillate really proves this as it's one dimensional compared to flower!
I agree broadly. I’ve discussed this at length on this sub...
But it has to start somewhere and it’s a process. THC is the best single indicator of the strength for noobs - I’m sure you will agree that a 25% would hit a little harder then a 12%. I fully agree lots of other factors are at play... I don’t shop based on THC myself but it’s improving.
I also think it goes unrecognized that mostly the %s are bullshit. The LPs shop around to get the best lab rating submitting top colas - this can be a far cry from what turns up on your jar. Case in point was Kinky Kush 27% everyone raved about for a while here at launch... it was trash!
I would love to see a label like you described,wouldn't they have to put THCa on the label since it gets converted in to THC when heated?
Two words for ya.. Shelter Craft .. check their packages
The difference between the THC and Total THC is the THCa content
>. this is a cannabis sub and we are all well versed in cannabis.
after seeing so many pics of dried out scraggly buds here being claimed as "fire" i doubt the validity of your statement...
Only proves my point more. If even on a cannabis dedicated sub people are ill informed.
But we are certainly better here then the public at large. Lot of work to be done on education for sure
You have to consider thc % when shopping with the government, 90+% is lacking in terps and pretty much every other enjoyable aspect of good cannabis. Having to jar my herb I purchased to bring back moisture and some muted flavour notes is ridiculous in this stage of the game. We deserve freshly cured products arriving properly for the money said products cost. I do admit it’s coming but it’s a slow roll for sure. I’d love the BM to be crushed and cannabis become a respected form of employment for all, and the fruits of those labours be freshly available products country wide. A boy can dream.
Fresh products will never consistently happen as long as the OCS stays being the middle man between LPs and B&Ms. I agree month old package dates aren’t too bad but you also have to take into consideration how long the flower been sitting before being packed.
This. Big difference between harvested/cured and package date! Would be awesome to get all three.
Shelter and BZAM are doing this now on packs
I'd love the BM to be legalized. "Crushing" it would not bring up quality.
Hire them all, every last one of them.. problem solved.
No just legalize the activities of the companies. Nothing will change until the regulations put in place by health canada are gone. The only "problem" is its illegality.
Can’t get rid of Heath Canada regs, never happen. They wouldn’t bow to that, they would prefer to dissolve the companies and put them all under their wing. Heads would roll! They’d look pretty silly arresting them all then legalizing the companies that they pursued through the courts. Save face by dismembering the companies and their employe rosters. No pot smoker will ever forget the raids and the bullshit they government put the industry through in the early beginning of legalizing. All my opinions*
I'm dreaming with you.
The terp and thc tests are fake AF they screw with numbers it’s a big problem in the states too
In Cali you just gotta go to the right person and your flower will test 5-10 % higher than anybody else it’s a joke even the best breeders from USA laugh when they see 30%
See here's me hoping that we move away from THC as a scale. When was the last time you went to buy wine and actually decided which one to pick because of the alcohol %?
I wish instead we had more info on strain, how it was grown, hang dried in the cut room etc, I feel like these things are all unlisted and should be what we talk about.
I think we are starting this, all the pictures with bud size, smell, efficacy, onset time are starting to expand what we consider good.
Tbh im not suprised ive experienced this and tried more lower potency strains which are 15% or so just under 20% .
Ive had no notice any consistent difference enough between 20%+ strains i smoked as much thats been my experience with it.
It why i started looking into different cannabinoids and also terpenes aswell other factors .
That arent talked as much ive heard atleast the cure and dry and has been grown with care or has it been rushed and you got stressed plant.
This article was about receptors probably having a super saturation point, meaning that smoking 70%thc concentrates only get you as high as your body will let you. As of this point terpenes have zero scientific evidence yet that they help with your high other than nice smells, but different thc’s and cannabinoids are being studied so maybe that, science will tell. Don’t know how the author jumps to the conclusion thc on labels does not mean anything.
Article states in general idea higher thc doesnt mean better it just states facts from its studies with extracts and concetrates same would apply to flower like it mentions.
I just stated the same thing from my experiences and enjoy any strain no matter thc %.
Aswell no wear i stated i said terpenes and effects correlate together for potency .
I just said i enjoyed researching cannabinoids, terpenes and other factors that make a strain better experience aswell as potency which can include the high,taste and aroma.
Sorry, I assumed you had the perception of the author. I just really dislike these articles that make bogus claims like that. I like reading about it all too, guess a little too much.
Already shown effects of myrcene.
Do you have a source? I’d actually love more info if you have it. I made a quick google and found an article that says so but quickly states that there is no proof.
Lol terpenes don’t offer effects other than pleasant taste and aroma that release dopamine and make you higher and excited that is all
Have you read anything, ever?
This article has problems because it references one article to talk about how CB receptors may have super saturation limits and seems to correlate that to higher thc being bad in some way.. I saw the original article to point out how over consumption might not be necessary. It then jumps to bogus entourage effect statements like they have some sort of validity. Maybe it’s all questions as I’m assuming the authors authenticity towards his own words. To me Thc on the package will let you know what is inside, and has helped me out so far... in the future once the effects of cbd cbc etc have been studied maybe you can make that claim.
Ya, the problem here is 1. People are totally uneducated. 2. Health Canada doesn’t recognize terpenes or anything else of value
There is zero studies on terpenes and their effect everything you hear about terpenes is bull crap 💩
I agree that THC isn't as absolutely important as some may think it is, but IMO this is essentially an opinion piece that references a pretty lightweight looking study -- said firmly from my armchair as I am in no way a scientist.
We already know tolerance is a factor, so of course regular users will report approximately the same level of high according to the cannabis they are currently adapted to -- which is what they reported. They even note, "The authors caution that the study examined regular users who have learned to meter their use based on the desired effect."
I don't think the study exposes anything other than the development tolerance and the diminishing benefits of high consumption. Microdosing is the way.
THC alone in the form of distillate can definitely get me high in proportion to the amount I consume until I develop a tolerance. With that said, a full spectrum high from flower is certainly a more enjoyable experience for me with different effects. I am confident I can tell the difference between 15% and 20% THC flower, though I may sometimes prefer the 15% flower based on its profile, overall quality and the experience I'm looking for.
What the article ignores is that consumers are already shopping based on profile when they choose an item because it's described as Sativa/Indica/Hybrid and when they shop for specific strains.
Great points! I grow my own, vape only, never test the THC levels but I can totally tell the difference between something with very high THC and lower THC, the lower THC strains are very flavorful and very nice to vape as well, however there nothing compared to the 25%+ strains, they really slap you in the face when vaping!
Is the double reply feature built in with your name?
I’ll have to check
Yes this is why pure THC distillate with no terpenes doesn't get you high if you dab it or vape it
Don’t think you’ve understood what’s being said at all
Nobody disputing THC gets you high - but is the high from distillate the same as the high from a flower with lots of different cannabinoids and terpenes?
Any smoker will tell you it isn’t - so there is clearly more at play. Nobody is saying THC isn’t super important though
I'm getting a lot of "THC isn't super important" from this thread, because this sub is really Reddit-y with its reactions to stuff. It is true that anyone with more than a passing familiarity with weed knows that you can "tell by the smell" rather than the appearance from experiencing very strong sativa hybrids with poor bag appeal. But bag appeal and really any ability to characterise the product at all goes out the window when you put it in a sealed container. People aren't stupid for buying the higher number.
I can definitely tell the difference between 24% and 27%. I have a very high tolerance and anything under 20% does not get me high at all I need around 23/24 % at least
I don’t buy on any number. I buy on word of mouth. It’s why I am on this sub
PSF pink gets me there better than the cactus breath even though it's lower THC