idk if this is a troll or not :/
Always be skeptical with YouTube comments. It could be true, and if so that's absolutely tragic, but it could also easily just be fake.
If it’s true, we’ll see the news reports since they said they’re going to the media. If we see nothing, it’s probably a troll.
Caution dur to possible trolling but still, this is awful
I'm not 100% confident that this commenter's story is legit given the behavior of many other youtube commenters, but their story definitely has merit. Eugenia needs to be held accountable. She knows what she's doing. I know for a fact that there must be other young people who watched her videos and looked up to her and ended up killing themselves from starvation in the process. I do hope that eventually, legal action is taken and all of the people who have been attacked and influenced by eugenia can get the justice they deserve.
Notice the child doesn’t even have a name.
It’s a chicken and the egg situation… Did the girl watch EC because she was anorexic? Or did she become anorexic from watching EC?
Either way, deplatform her.
I’m sure Eugenia has contributed to other girls deaths. Maybe the parents don’t even know
wouldn't surprise me if its just somebody trolling
We’ll know for sure if this person really does go to the media and file legal proceedings against EC/YT. If it’s
true, this parent can be the change this platform desperately needs. It’s terrible to think that so many young girls have to die/be endangered for change to happen.
Ec honestly is so ill I dont know what a lawsuit against her would look like? I don't know what they'd be sueing for and they'd probably need a lot of money to file against youtube cuz they can afford top notch lawyers....I dunno. I dont think eugenia is legally responsible. That girl had an E.D and they're not contagious. Eugenia didn't give it to her. That mom is just hurt and lashing out. E.d are often caused by crappy family dynamics and truama. The kid probably developed it out of a need to cope with a poor home life.
yeah if it’s true and the parents really are working on making this public, she would have no choice but to face this. i don’t know for sure but it could be grounds for a lawsuit, not sure against EC herself or they might even take on Youtube, maybe both.
Her daughter wasn't sick because of Eugenia. Yes it may have been triggering to see her body but there were deeper reasons for her having an eating disorder I'm sure.
Agree. Also, this person didn't just wake up one day to find her previously seemingly healthy daughter had lost all her body weight and passed away during the night.
"Yesterday she was watching cartoons and stuffing her face with Doritos, but at some point during the evening she discovered EC and LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TODAY!"
Trolls are having a bumper crop this year.
These types of messages are posted on virtually all of her videos. Same writing styles that older people don't really write in. (Most parents aren't going to call it an "ED" like someone who regularly discusses it on the Internet). They are trying to find ways to get others incensed enough to figure out how to get her deplatformed. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they were the same people DMing her hoping she dies.
I'm a parent I use "ED" 😁
I'm also a parent and use "ED". We are also both active commenters on this subreddit. A parent who is a \*bystander\* who does not participate in these forums is probably not going to be using the lingo.
Hard disagree. A parent with a child with an ED is likely to be familiar with the term.
That's a fairly good assumption, You're right though can't know the lingo if you're not familiar with it.
High five for being the hip parent!
This is a troll.
I really hope so.
downvote me to hell but it's not fair to say this girl has blood on her hands. eating disorders and especially once that are so serious they lead to death are very complex. someone isn't gonna watch a few videos of Eugenia and start starving themselves to death. sure her content can be triggering if you're someone prone to having those mental issues and that's a valid point but you can't blame someone's death purely on Eugenia's videos. it just doesn't work that way. I don't agree with what she's doing but she will never be single handedly responsible for someone's death, that's just ignorant to say.
Completely agree with this. If anyone should be held accountable it's YouTube, twitch, Instagram etc. Eugenia is a very sick girl herself and yes she influences girls with eating disorders. But if Eugenia didn't exist, they would get their 'thinspo' somewhere else. Also not agreeing with what Eugenia is doing at all and I think it's harmful. But she's not right mentally, obviously. Someone else should step in to protect her from herself and protect the girls that look up to her. But her family and all those social media platforms aren't stepping in unfortunately.
Yet anyone else Anorexic or Bulimic isn't allowed to so the same as Eugenia and have a platform like her because it's against their rules. You say they will find another Influencer because its obvious All these Social Media platforms have let Eugenia get a pass on all their very own rules which she gets to violate every day. Yeah so she is partially responsible because she knows it's against the rules and still flaunts her disorder in skimpy clothes and wont stop.
There is tons of thinspo on the internet. From anonymous girls, models and there are other anorexic 'influencers', although they don't have as much viewers as Eugenia. But there are a lot of pro ana pages and anorexic girls who glorify their illness on Instagram alone.
Christie Swadling WAS one to give an example. She is now in recovery and is doing great (last time I checked anyway), as it seems. But her pictures when she was at her worst were also used for thinspo. And even though she was already trying to recover years ago (she said), she posted pictures of herself in bikinis and shit when she was very emaciated and Instagram also did nothing. Same with that Karenka girl. She is very very underweight and although she says yes I'm bulimic and she puts 'no pro ana' under every picture, doesn't mean she isn't used for thinspo. She even posts almost naked pictures of herself and Instagram doesn't take it down.
And yes, Eugenia 'knows what she's doing' but remember that this girl is very mentally ill. That doesn't excuse everything but it is the reason why she does what she does. That's why I said, she should be stopped because clearly she is not going to stop herself until she dies. And since her family is not doing anything, I think all those platforms should step in. Myself and a lot of other people keep reporting her pictures and videos, there are petitions, emails from people and NOTHING happens. These platforms don't care about her or the harm she causes to others and I think they are more to blame for this, that it could go this far.
eugenia herself is one foot in thr grave and i doubt ec was the only low weight anorexic or only triggering content this girl (if shes real) followed like theyre are whole sections of MPA dedicated to eugenia cooneys body type.
Who are these other people not allowed on social media that you speak of?
Guys, no, this isn’t real at all, this is a troll do not feed the trollls
Nah I believe it. It was only a matter of time before someone who used her as inspiration passed away and EC has to face a grieving parent.
Shes obviously not but shes one of the most well known ones, and people absolutely watch her to fuel their ED. Considering that anorexia has an enormous fatality rate, its not implausible at all that she influenced people to death.
With autism, the daughter could have had a special interest in Eugenia. It was said that her browser history was 90% Eugenia. I'm not 100% sold on the story, but it does sound plausible.
The mention of the autism diagnosis made me believe in it more, but I'm not completely sold because this is the internet. It's definitely not the most outlandish accusation I have heard on the internet.
Where did y'all find the autism info?
Did you not read OPs screenshots?
In the last screenshot.
The thing is, it could be a troll, or it could be real. We literally have no way of knowing so it's kinda pointless to argue back and forth on that particular point.
Yeah... Not buying this one.
Blood on her hands.
This has to be fake i mean i dont think Eugenia would be able to be charged for some incident like that, even though young girls are being influenced by her.
The poster doesnt say that EC should be charged with anything or deplatformed.
So just because the OP didnt come out and say those exact words say what do you think was the intent of them showing the screenshots? What do you think the parents of their dead offspring are trying to accomplish, do ya think they want Eugenia to stay and keep on going with her sick platforms, so that other youth can be harmed?
No but they can sue so that she loses her platform
As fake as Eugenia seeing a doctor and being declared healthy?
Ok so i read the entire screenshots and i have some questions (assuming this is not an elaborate troll)
\-When did the daughter develop anorexia? Did she just lock herself in her room and constantly withered away for many years? Was the girl being locked in her room starving a normal thing in that house?
\-How did she hid the dehydration from the parents, psychologists or whatever experts helped? Did no one talk to her for extended periods of time? What about the doctors? No one realized something was terribly wrong medically? No one suspected foul play from a severely anorexic person??
\-Did the ED center not know that the internet is DANGEROUS for people that are dying from EDs? How come no action was taken to check her browsing history BEFORE she died? No advice or remarks on the internet + extreme mental illness + autism being a danger?
\-Did they receive no guidance on how to take care of someone like this? It sounds epic dumb that they allowed her to avoid WATER while locked in her room watching Eugenia. How often did anyone talk to this kid at all?
Im sorry if this really happened, but when a kid **commits suicide** (or extreme self harm) and all the parent cares about is punishing someone else ("justice") i cant help feeling like they are just trying to displace responsibility.
I still think Eugenia should be banned from making videos in thinspo clothes, it sucks but it has to be done. However this is either a troll or a shitty parent that did nothing but the bare minimum for he daughter (feeding tube) and then went on a witch hunt for someone to blame. Unless the parents are mentally delayed or the kid was an epic genius that fooled everyone until death.
Anorexia has been around for centuries at least. Did the girl watch Eugenia since she was toddler aged or why would we assume that Eugenia caused the ED? How old was this girl and how long did it take for her to die while locked in her room watching thinspo?
At the moment i cannot imagine this not being a troll, a very very unfortunate and **UNLIKELY** event, or an absolutely abhorrent parent trying to find a way out of taking the tiniest responsibility for their daughter's death.
Or messed up people lookin for a pay out. Everyone knows Euginia's fam is loaded. Maybe their daughter died they found EC in the browser and the next move is to sue for pain and suffering? On a serious note, it says she hid her bottles of water somewhere in her rooms so they thought she was drinking water. Parents are nosey af there is no way her parents didn't occasionally go threw her room. It took EC years to get where she is. So I'm curious as well about how long this went on before the docs and feeding tubes and how long after? I'm not a EC fan I think she's a kinda crappy person but these parents need to take some responsibility considering their daughters age and the fact she was autistic.
All assuming the post wasn't made by a troll.
Lol i didnt think of that...like one of those persons that pretend having being hit by a car just to sue the driver...
I completely agree with everything you said about parenting and definitely make a good point with the payout idea. I can see it going 2 ways, the parents find an obscure law they can use to sue and Deb settles to avoid the drama or Eugenia counters with a defamation case and all hell breaks loose
Either if this is fake or not, I'm sure something similar happened in the past.
I hope it’s a troll.
Trolling or not trolling, it has begun. And it will continue. I'm sure she has contributed to many ED sufferers behaviour.
I hope that parent gets the justice he deserves. It was only a matter of time before someones child dies that was using EC as body goals. I hope she gets sued into oblivion one day or faces some kind of consequence be it her or her mother.
So this amuses you? How do you know it's fiction, what proof do you have? Probably they wont find any other Influencer like Eugenia because it's against all the SOCIAL Media Platform's very own RULES. We all know it's only Eugenia who gets a pass and everyone else with a much smaller following gets reported and suspended.
Honestly, in my opinion this mother is insensitive. She should go to therapy before blaming another anorexic for her child's illness. It really grosses me out that people think its okay to post these kinds of things. That parents parenting skills probably had more to do with the development of her kids disorder then eugenia ever did. Eating disorders ARE NOT CONTAGIOUS. There is always an underlying reason/cause for the developments of these behaviors and that cause is NEVER thinspiration or bonespo. Like saying she caused the kid to die is barely scratching the surface of this kids real problem and isn't even doing her kid justice. Eugenia is just a scapegoat here.
You really think Eugenia is the only thinspo on social media?
yeah, no. even if that’s a true account that’s not an appropriate comment to make at all. especially where mental health is concerned, people’s self harm or (passive/slow) suicide is their own doing. it sucks if it’s true that eugenia was her main inspiration but it’s not her fault
I can understand a parent wanting to blame something or someone else though. It's hard to fathom that there was just something wrong with their brain chemistry and there was little they could do to prevent this. It's easier to try and push blame somewhere else. Unfortunately when they don't get that "justice" they're in a worse spot than they were before.
Yeah it is her fault she keeps on flaunting her boney ass ragged self in skimpy clothes every damn day of her isolated life and loving all the sickos' compliments enabling it even though she has thousands pleading with her to STOP because its triggering them or others. Do you think her being an Influencer means she doesn't have to be responsible and take accountability? Or is it because shes sick you think she gets a free pass when no one else is allowed to break the TOS rules except her?
Truly heart breaking
this is really sad. i can imagine eugenia saying “i’m sorry you
feel that way but i’m not making anyone watch hme.”
"Her ED took her away from us" so it's not EC
Exactly like I hate using this term but if this is real this sounds like a Karen mom for putting 100% of the blame on Eugenia when it's like this doesn't happen to people who are in a healthy mental state in the first place. And she would find some other skinny girl to look up to without Eugenia.
Really you are calling a grieving parent a fecking Karen? Have some respect. And yeah a grieving parent isnt going to see or care if Euegnia is 100% percent responsible or not. Trust me if it was Deb's (and she was a normal Mom) precious child she lost there would be hell to pay.
If she didnt notice that her daughter wasn't even drinking water it means something went terribly wrong , not just the presence of some silly mentally ill youtuber.
With this mindset any karen could allow all her kids to develop anorexia and die and then just go " lol its cuz they watched eugenia, please give pity and money".
Not a single shred of responsibility or guilt is prime psychopathic karen behavior (kinda like Deb yeah).
I'm kinda offended you're defending someone who probably had more of a role in the development of her child's eating disorder then eugenia ever really could. Why don't you think for a second here? No one is saying eugenia is right for what she does or that she isn't problematic for the fact that she refuses to age restrict...but this mother is so not right to post this. Not at all. NOT AT ALL. it achieves NOTHING for anyone and is just ugly and misguided. She sounds like she needs therapy because she's lashing out. I dont care if she got her kid help for an e.d or not that doesn't mean she didn't help cause it. She is more responsible PERIOD. In every way. She is responsible for her child.
Try to put yourself in shoes of the parents if the post is real. (let's not talk about if it's a troll or no). I think that noone here, can truly imagine the pain of loss of their own child, unless they experienced it on their own.
So let's stay objective. Each person is dealing with grief differently. I do agree that people who experience such a loss do need therapy. On the other hand if they are in such a state, if it's fresh wound... They probably can't process it fuly
It's always very individual. It's never black and white. It's the same as with children who are drug abusers. Parents can try dozen of times to get them help. Yet some cannot succeed unless the child wants the help as well. And if they specified their child is autistic, that's another point that has to be taken into consideration. Again, we don't know to what level the child had the autism.
It's very easy to jump into conclusions and assumptions like this.
EC definitely helds accountability over her own content which is easily accesible and not restricted AT ALL. (the argument that parents can stop their children from viewing harmful content is correct to certain degree). Nowdays children hold the upper hand over technology knowledge. I know that firsthand. My parents have close to zero knowledge of technology even if they tried to learn about it. They don't have the space and capacity to dive into it. And I believe that these topics should be included into base educational system in schools. (for sure there have been taken steps towards this but it's certainly not covered enough) Same with EDs. The awereness of this topic is still too little.
Do you think that the mother/father don't blame themselves inside? I bet that if they did what was in their power to help their child, they are trying in their mind to explain where they failed. And if they couldn't come to conclusion what else they could do. Then of course this public figure, visible on all platforms without no restriction at all. I think it's very understandable they would turn it to them.
This whole situation is way too complicated to fully comprehend and understand when we don't have any closer informations. To get full picture, both sides would need to step forward and explain the situation. Which from EC side, we definitely won't get.
I apologize for the long message. And it's not meant to attack you or your opinion. Just trying to come with a bit open view perspective on the situation.
She could easily find some other skinny idol.
If this poster is real, the best thing they could do would be to contact the media. Shows like 60 Minutes and Dateline (is that still on?) and the like absolutely love eating disorder stories and "influencer culture" stories because they both get high ratings. The parents should go to the media and tell their story to anyone who will listen. (Again, assuming this is true)
She said Eugenia has ruined her life and her family’s, and is blaming her for her daughter’s death. I think she’s just trying to project that pain and blame Eugenia because it makes her feel better. It’s not Eugenia’s fault and no, Eugenia is not responsible for that girl’s death. The death of your child is an inexplicable pain that I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy, but blaming and projecting that pain on an anorexic Youtuber is not the way to go. Anorexia/eating disorders are not so simple. I’m sorry, but this woman is being ridiculous. And while she’s filled with rage because of her daughter’s death, she shouldn’t be pointing fingers at the easiest target to blame. She shouldn’t be investing in lawyers, but rather a therapist. She needs help to cope with this.
I’m sorry but blaming EC for anyone’s death is unfair…
Not really, she has a massive audience that she is intentionally and knowingly exposing this shit to. She's not some dumb teenage girl, she's a manipulative adult that is using the attention to get off. She doesn't give a shit who she hurts or triggers.
Why are so many comments calling this person a troll and defending Eugenia? Do you guys realize how massive her platform is? She knows exactly what she's doing... her last video is literally just her eye fucking the camera and showing her ribs for 20 minutes straight... She is a horrible person. This person may be a troll, but i GUARANTEE you there are girls out there who have died because of her videos.
I don’t agree. Although parents need to be more attentive to this, as a parent I would also get triggered if I saw that my dead daughter was watching this content probably without her knowing. Nowadays it’s almost impossible to prevent kids from accessing to the internet.
If your daughter is emaciated, dont let her rot alone in her room. Make sure she drinks water and eats. How did they not notice that she wasn't drinking water? Talk to her some time so that you may notice if shes dehydrated.
Unplug the internet if it comes to it.
If its not a troll it sounds like narcissist boomer parent that couldnt be arsed to help her daugher beyond a feeding tube and then tried to find a culprit.
If your autistic kid is dying, locks herself on her room and watches Eugenia cooney 24/7 you are probably a dumbass, i still feel sorry for your daughter tho.
The youtube commenter said the daughter had a feeding tube. There was medical intervention. Sometimes doctor's can't save everyone though. The autism diagnosis probably complicated things.
i’m so sick of people saying it’s on the parents. some parents are awful human beings, that’s not the child’s fault. they still deserve protection.
Can you read? They didnt just watch their kid water away they took their kid to an Ed treatment center.
Yeah it is on Eugenia she doesn't age restrict she lives in a child's bedroom with plushies, she dresses like she is 6 fecking yrs old, and talks like shes 4. Her videos have little kid shit in the the thumbnails and she dresses up like Disney's princesses and her gaming g vrapnos what kids play. What more proof do ya need?
Also on the individual who chose to watch her.
I doubt any of these comments like this are actually real. It's probably just fans trying to cause an outrage.
I can hear it now 🙄 Yeah I seen that comment and like guys I’m sorry for like what that woman had to like go through and everything but like I don’t really see how like it’s my fault like guys I’m just existing. And then someone will message her and say wow Eugenia I guess anytime someone dies it’s your fault. Haha like yeah exactly like I’m sorry again but like I’m not doing anything wrong so like yeah
It's all about the money. Her shock value emaciation brings in/keeps viewers. The platforms don't care.
i wonder if this is true now because there is a video called EC denies accusations by Indie Truther; a comment there says their sister’s autistic friend died of an ed was later found to have solely browsed EC now the parents are looking to sue YouTube. i’m paraphrasing all this ofc it could still be fake or unrelated or even if true who is to say any lawyer would take on that case, or believe there is any, disclaimers laws etc it’s all too complicated so i guess i’m not holding my breath
Fake or not. This could easily happen with pro ana content. This is no different from seeing some getting drugged daily on camera.
Parents with anorexic teenagers are 100% part of the problem... not that EC isn't part of it but I mean, come on... this is a very bad parent or a troll.... there's a lot of trolls saying a young person they know died and followed her etc... Honnestly, I never believe them.
If your kid gets an eating disorder you're automatically a bad parent? That's a ridiculous statement. And hurtful for all the parents that lost their kid or are scared for their kid with an eating disorder right now.
It’s important to take this with a hefty grain of salt. It’s a YouTube comment.
Either this is a troll or an 'inefficient' parent.
If your loved one has an ED, get immediate aggressive help, dont just let them waste away and watch thinspo all day.
Have you read the last screenshot? They did seek help.
I did now, sorry my tablet didnt show the other screenshots. This is the response i made.
I hope im not being too insensitve but this is just...no words lol...
Oh come on. Don’t blame someone else for the suicide of a person she didn’t know. That’s so fucked up. I get the urge to do that when you’ve just lost your daughter, but I fully disagree with all the other people in the comments.
Eugenia does not post pro-ana content. In order for you to get triggered by her, you must already be disordered. I’m saying this as someone who’s anorexic. I would have never been triggered by her years ago because I wasn’t anorexic at the time. Now that I am, it’s a different story. That’s not her fault at all. You must be in pretty deep in order to get triggered by a girl who looks like that, shows it off, and otherwise just exists.
They're blaming Eugenia for their shit parenting skills. Nice. Point a finger and deny accountability.
dang usually I don't Be gettin in on this thread, but even that hit me.
Ehh blaming a website and a stranger for your kids eating disorder resulting in death is a pretty far stretch.
I don't think what happened to her daughter is anyone's 'fault'. If Eugenia didn't exist then her daughter would have found emaciated bodies from other sources online or in the real world. I think it's more likely that someone already with an ED would be seeking out this sort of content to trigger themselves than seeing this content would give them the ED. I also don't think it's the mother's 'fault' although she does seem to be projecting here.
I don’t want to sound like a dick but it seems to me that this person is just looking for someone to blame.
We should share this on all social media platforms because this truly could be real and she is causing girls to starve themselves so this is not unbelievable that this would’ve happened. Eugenia is a horrible influence on those that are mentally vulnerable, young & impressionable & those who suffer from ED’s. She’s also back to saying she’s “always been naturally skinny” & that she doesn’t have an issue & doing those type of things & all the body checking is her way of being pro Ana & influencing others to be pro Ana because actions speak louder than words & the words she does use are powerful and they do lied to others being influenced by her in a very bad way so when people say she’s not pro Ana because she doesn’t blatantly tell people to blatantly starve themselves it’s just ridiculous because there’s not just one way to say something or imply something! 😒
That’s not fair to put on another sick person. Understand the emotion behind it but Eugenia is someone else’s daughter